Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 20, 2013

The Mindless Masses, Following the Crowd, and the Politics of Facebook


On the latest edition of the My 2 Cents Radio Show, Robert and I discussed the phenomena of pages on Facebook that gain hundreds of “likes” within a matter of days of opening their doors and the tendency for pages that just regurgitate…I mean espouse one ideology or the other seem to be far more successful than ours.  For example, there is a conservative page run by a group of teenagers that has been open a handful of days and has over 600 “likes.”  Content wise the page is your typical conservatives-good-liberals-bad kind of thing; it was plugged by some of the more popular and well known conservative pages hence the instantaneous popularity.  While at the same time, our little Facebook page has been around for well over six months and we cannot break (or even reach for that matter) 200 “likes” to save our lives. 

Why is that?  It’s certainly not for a lack of trying (99.9999999999% of which has been done by Wobbles), yet people come to the page, “like” it, and then leave.  The exodus does tend to coincide with days that I do most of the posting on the page.  Robert has also received a lot of negative feedback from conservatives that seem to think working with a liberal is tantamount to treason or some such nonsense.  Robert has done an excellent job of networking with other pages to spread the word while I tend to just piss everyone off.  For example, I criticized a status update written by one of the larger conservative pages and hellfire reigned down upon our page.  Poor Robert then spent the rest of that day trying to appease the offended parties (though I never insulted anyone one personally, just called their ideas into question).  We lost a slew of fans on that day and still months later, eggshells are walked on. 

This is where the politics of Facebook comes in to play.  And by politics, I’m not talking government but office politics (for lack of a better term/comparison).  In order for a page to get noticed, they have to make nice with other, more popular, pages in hopes to get a plug.  This is something that poor Robert, bless his heart, has worked hard on and stressed over.  So often he has encouraged me to not go off on some people/pages in hopes to some day get a plug from them.  Well it never seems to happen because.  No matter how much Robert works at it, we still get ignored.  Now I haven’t put the same effort into trying to connect with the more liberal pages because 1) I suck at marketing and 2) those pages tend to get on my nerves almost as much as the conservative pages do and generally for the same reasons.  Far too often over the years on our page and my blog, I’ve been bombarded with mindless criticisms that require zero critical thinking at all, so no I’m not going to waste my time kissing up to those same kinds of people.  I will be nice to them because that is who I am but I will not try to impress them or sit around waiting for their table scraps because at the end of the day they really don’t get it.

Which brings me to the why.  Why hasn’t our page caught on?  Why don’t we have tons more folks following the page?  Because in order to truly get what we are doing here requires actual thought.  Most pages on Facebook, and the net in general, provide nothing more than affirmation of one set of beliefs or another.  These pages do nothing to encourage actual thought because they simply parrot with soundbite sized comments that say nothing more than we-are-good-and-they-are-bad.  Left wing pages do it, right wing pages do it, supposed news organizations do it…it’s like a virus that has spread throughout out our collective consciousness that eats away at peoples ability to think for themselves.  Why else do you think the majority of conservatives watch Fox News and leftists watch MSNBC?  Probably because doing so would make their heads explode if they had to consider anything that goes against their narrative of choice. 

Thinking for yourself is hard.  Going against the grain is something few seem to be able, or more likely willing, to do.  Things are so much easier following the herd so in a way I can understand why people do it (because it is easy and requires zero thought) but I have a seriously hard time taking anyone seriously that displays these tendencies.  That’s not to say that they aren’t good or nice people, because I’m sure that most of them are.  I also have little to no doubt in their sincerity of their beliefs; I just worry about how they arrived to said beliefs.  And don’t get me wrong…I sure as Hades don’t have all of the answers and I’m humble enough to know that I could be wrong on a verity of philosophical and religious topics, so understand that this is not me saying I’m better or smarter than anyone else because I know for a fact that I’m not.  What I am saying is that people need to take off the blinders and follow Robert Frost’s advice.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Monday, March 18, 2013

Topics for the March 19th Radio Show


This week marks the move of the live broadcast of the radio show to Tuesday mornings.  Going forward we will be broadcasting our weekly show at 10:30 AM Central.  To listen to the show live head over here and to listen to previous episodes head over here.   


Wobbles’ Selections/Topics –

Topic:  North Korea or What is the Maniac Midget Up to Now?
Opening Paragraph:  There is no tangible evidence that North Korea's young Supreme Leader, Kim Jong-un, is actually crazy. In fact, there's very little tangible evidence at all about North Korea's new First Secretary of the Workers' Party slash First Chairman of the National Defence Commission slash Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army slash Chairman of the Central Military Commission slash Marshall of the Republic slash husband slash father.
Opening Paragraphs:  (CNN) -- A top U.S. congressman expressed concern about the "stability" of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un after months of provocative statements and behavior from the nuclear-armed communist state.

"You have a 28-year-old leader who is trying to prove himself to the military, and the military is eager to have a saber-rattling for their own self-interest," said Rep. Mike Rogers, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. "And the combination of that is proving to be very, very deadly."


Topic:  Mayor Bloomberg (a.k.a. Doofus Doomberg)
Opening Paragraph:  Soda: 1. Mayor Michael Bloomberg: 0. The New York City mayor's newest obesity-fighting proposal to limit the sales of sugary drinks to 16 ounces or less at restaurants, theaters, and food carts was dismissed by a state supreme court judge on Monday-just one day before the health code would have taken full effect. Considering Bloomberg's success in banning trans fats and smoking in public places, this decision came as a total surprise to most, including the businesses that had already edited their menus and ordered smaller serving cups. Perhaps the most shocked was Bloomberg himself, as well as his administration.  
Opening Paragraphs:  New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has made a goal of his third term in office to make his constituency as healthy as possible, in spite of themselves. He has gotten a law passed to force restaurants to place calorie counts on their menu items, and has attacked salt and sugar vigorously.


Topic:  Benghazi
Opening Paragraph:  Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, in an extensive interview with Fox News, alleged that the injured survivors of the Benghazi terror attack have been "told to be quiet" and feel they can't come forward to tell their stories -- as he urged the House to subpoena the administration for details if necessary.
Opening Paragraphs:  Benghazi is back in the news with the arrest of a suspect Thursday being held in Libya. This could spur Congress to renew efforts to shine light on the attack on the U.S. consulate on September 11, 2012.

Wounded survivors of the terrorist attack, however, are still under wraps. As reported by The Hill newspaper, Senators are applying pressure again. One option is to subpoena the survivors; another is to hold up confirmation for the new ambassador to Libya, Deborah Jones, who would replace murdered U.S. ambassador Christopher Stevens.


Wobbles’ Brought to You by Star Trek Story of the Week:  4D Printing Is The Future Of 3D Printing And It’s Already Here
Opening Paragraphs:  3D printing is over 20 years old, but it feels like we’re just finally starting to truly unlock the potential of the technology. The continued march of technology is relentless, however, and some inventors are already thinking about what comes next.

The next big thing may very well be 4D printing, a new technology from Skylar Tibbits, an architect, designer and computer scientist. The core concept behind this new technology is self assembly.

It may sound strange and far out, but it’s actually quite simple. 4D printing is being billed as a process where synthetic objects can change and adapt themselves to the environment.



Nubs’ Selections/Topics –


Opening Paragraphs:  NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. -- Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is this year's winner of the Conservative Political Action Committee straw poll, an unscientific survey of conservative political activists attending the event.

Paul, whose father, Ron Paul, won the straw poll twice in recent years, secured 25 percent of the votes. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio came in second with 23 percent. The poll, which American Conservative Union President Al Cardenas described as "not scientific" but still "pretty cool," provides a brief snapshot of the thinking of a small group of conservative activists three years before the party's next primary elections.


From the Story:  VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis, speaking to an overflow crowd of more than 150,000 in St Peter's Square, urged the world on Sunday to be more forgiving and merciful and not so quick to condemn other people's failures.

"A little bit of mercy makes the world less cold and more just," he told the cheering crowd from the window of the papal apartments overlooking the square.

[...]

Since his election on Wednesday as the first non-European pope in nearly 1,300 years, Francis has signaled a sharp change of style from his more aloof predecessor, Benedict, and laid out a clear moral path for the 1.2-billion-member Church, which is beset by scandals, intrigue and strife.

"Brothers and sisters, good morning," he said, using a familiar style that has already become his hallmark.

He wove his address from the window as well as his earlier homily around the Gospel story of the crowd that wanted to stone a woman who had committed adultery but was saved by Jesus.
Jesus told them "let he among you who is without sin, cast the first stone" and then told the woman "go and sin no more".

"I think even we are sometimes like these people, who on the one hand want to listen to Jesus, but on the other hand, sometimes we like to stone others and condemn others. The message of Jesus is this: mercy," he said at the morning Mass.

[...]

Before he entered the tiny church of Santa Anna for the morning Mass, Francis stopped to greet well-wishers who had lined up outside a nearby Vatican gate.

He chatted and laughed with many of them before pointing to his black plastic wrist watch and saying: "It's almost 10 o'clock. I have to go inside to say Mass. They are waiting for me."

Inside, he wore the purple vestments of the liturgical season of Lent, which ends in two weeks on Easter Sunday.

At the end of the Mass, he waited outside the church and greeted people as they left the building, like a parish priest, asking many of them: "Pray for me".

His last words before he left the window were: "Have a nice Sunday and have a nice lunch".


Nubs’ Neat Story of the Week:  Hundreds of Dinosaur Egg Fossils Found
Opening Paragraphs:  Researchers in northeastern Spain say they've uncovered hundreds of dinosaur egg fossils, including four kinds that had never been found before in the region. The eggs likely were left behind by sauropods millions of years ago.

Eggs, eggshell fragments and dozens of clutches were nestled in the stratigraphic layers of the Tremp geological formation at the site of Coll de Nargó in the Spanish province of Lleida, which was a marshy region during the Late Cretaceous Period, the researchers said.


Nubs’ Religious Philosophical Topic of the Week:  Divinity & Nature
Summary:  This topic is taken from a blog post I wrote in 2009 and fits in with a discussion that took place this week on our Facebook page.
Opening Paragraph:  I was watching Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers Program 2: The Message of Myth yesterday and the role that nature plays in myth was brought up as part of the discussion. There was a basic distinction shown in how different myths and religions view nature. Nature is either seen as something that is corrupt and must be conquered by man (as in the Judea-Christian traditions) or it is seen as an expression of or part of the divine (as in the Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, and Native American traditions). I had never noticed this distinction before, but now that it has been pointed out, it is very glaring. 

Thursday, February 28, 2013

Prayer in Public Schools


Over on our Facebook page, I posted a picture I found on the Being Liberal page, and have posted here, dealing with prayer in public schools.  A gentleman left a comment stating that the premise of the meme was false because often school staff do not understand or know the law.  To emphasize his point, he linked to a story titled Muslim Prayer Allowed in San Diego--Christian Prayer Denied in Bayonne

From the story –
Somehow I missed hearing about this story until yesterday, and when I did so, I listened carefully, then read thoroughly about this development. My ire is raised…for it is reported that in Carver, a San Diego elementary public school, a time during class hours has been set aside for Muslim led prayers, and that the school is now offering classes in Arabic.

Carver school no longer serves pork and other foods which conflict with fundamental Muslims diet restrictions. In addition, single gender classes for girls have been set up there.

When I read this, my mind raced to Jeremy Jerschina, the valedictorian of his graduating class, who was forbidden to include a prayer in his address to the assembled people during the ceremonies.

The author went on to link and post quotes from two stories: 1) Muslim prayers in school debated and 2) a story about a controversy over a prayer in the Valedictory Address of student Jeremy Jerschina (unfortunately the link to the original story was broken).  The opening five paragraphs and the story overview were quoted, but the story went on to add more context to the situation. 
Supporters of Carver say such an accommodation is legal, if not mandatory, under the law. They note the district and others have been sued for not accommodating religious needs on the same level as non-religious needs, such as a medical appointment.

Islam requires its adherents to pray at prescribed times, one of which falls during the school day.

While some parents say they care more about their children's education than a debate about religious freedom, the allegations – made at a school board meeting in April – have made Carver the subject of heated discussions on conservative talk radio. District officials have been besieged by letters and phone calls, some laced with invective.

The issue has drawn the attention of national groups concerned about civil rights and religious liberty. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, Anti-Defamation League, American Civil Liberties Union and the Pacific Justice Institute are some of the groups monitoring developments in California's second-largest school district.

Among the critics is Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel with the nonprofit, Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center devoted to “defending the religious freedom of Christians.”

He said he's “against double standards being used,” such as when there is a specific period for Muslim students to pray and not a similar arrangement for Christians.

Carver's supporters noted that Christianity and other religions, unlike Islam, do not require their followers to pray at specific times that fall within school hours, when children by law must be in school. Amid the controversy, the district is studying alternatives to the break to accommodate student prayer.

Capitalizing on what it considers a precedent-setting opportunity created by the Carver situation, the Sacramento-based Pacific Justice Institute has offered to help craft a district wide “Daily Prayer Time Policy.”

In a letter, the religious-rights organization urged the district to broaden its accommodations to Christians and Jews by setting aside separate classrooms for daily prayer and to permit rabbis, priests and other religious figures to lead children in worship on campuses.

A lawyer representing the district said those ideas would violate the Constitution's prohibition against government establishment of religion.

The uproar over Carver comes as schools across the country grapple with how to accommodate growing Muslim populations. In recent weeks, the University of Michigan's Dearborn campus has been divided over using student fees to install foot-washing stations on campus to make it easier for Muslim students to cleanse themselves before prayer.

“These things are surfacing more and more in many places where large communities of Muslims are coming in and trying to say this is our right,” said Antoine Mefleh, a non-Muslim who is an Arabic language instructor with the Minneapolis public schools.

His school allows Muslim students to organize an hour of prayer on Fridays – Muslims typically have Friday congregational prayers – and make up class work they miss as a result. During the rest of the week, students pray during lunch or recess.

The San Diego chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations supports the Carver program.

“Our country is transforming demographically, religiously,” said Edgar Hopida, the chapter's public relations director. “Our country has to now accommodate things that are not traditionally accounted for before.”

Carol Clipper, who is the guardian of two grandchildren enrolled in the school's Arabic program, said she believes students should be “given the freedom” to pray. Clipper is Christian, and her grandchildren are being raised in both Islam and Christianity.

“I take them to the mosque and they go to church with me,” she said.

Another parent, Tony Peregrino, whose son is not in the Arabic program, said he's OK with the Muslim students praying. What he cares about, he said, is that teachers are doing their job, and his son's education is not affected.

Courts have ruled on a series of school prayer cases over the past half-century, but legal scholars say a lack of clarity remains.

“This is an area where the law is notoriously erratic,” said Steven Smith, a constitutional law professor at the University of San Diego.

Voluntary prayers by students are protected private speech, the courts have said. That means students can say grace before a meal and have Bible study clubs on campus, and several San Diego schools do. Public school employees, however, cannot lead children in prayer on campus.

Students also can be excused for religious holidays, such as Yom Kippur, the Jewish day of atonement, and Good Friday during Holy Week.

The federal Equal Access Act requires that extracurricular school clubs, religious and non-religious, be treated equally.

San Diego Unified was sued in 1993 when it denied a University City High School student's request to hold lunchtime Bible fellowship. The court found the district discriminated against religion, because it allowed secular clubs to meet during lunch.

Brent North, a lawyer retained by the district to address concerns related to the Carver program, said the district learned from the University City High case to be “careful about restricting students' right to their own private religious expression, including when it's on campus.”

The district cites Department of Education guidelines on prayer:

“Where school officials have a practice of excusing students from class on the basis of parents' requests for accommodation of non-religious needs, religiously motivated requests for excusal may not be accorded less favorable treatment.”

The midday prayer for Muslims here generally falls between 1 and 2 p.m., North said, and that is before the school day ends.

“What is unique about this request is the specificity of the religious requirement that a prayer be offered at a certain time on the clock,” he said.

North went on to say, “The district's legal obligation in response to a request that a prayer must be performed at a particular time is to treat that request the same as it would treat a student's request to receive an insulin shot at a particular time.”

Mefleh, the Minneapolis Arabic instructor, said he allows his Muslim students to pray at the end of class during the month long observance of Ramadan, Islam's holiest period.

“Some accommodation has to come from both sides,” he said. “I just tell them prayer is good. Class is good, too. Your time is precious. You have to come to an agreement with them without making a big fuss. If you want to pray, I understand, but I don't want to interrupt the class too much.”

Obviously there is a lot going on here and I don’t begrudge the author of the post for not quoting the entire news article, in fact she explicitly suggests that people read both stories completely and carefully. 

After reading the story in its entirety, it appears to me that officials at San Diego public school district and at this school are doing two things: 1) trying to avoid a lawsuit from the parents of the Muslim students, and 2) trying to make the transition from the closed charter school to Carver Elementary as painless as possible for those 100 Muslim students.  While I can understand why they made the decision that they did, I think it was a big mistake. 

Religion in public schools is an all-or-nothing thing.  You cannot allow the formation of a Christian group/club (like the Fellowship for Christian Athletes) without also allowing the formation of Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or Atheist groups (just to name a few).  The best policy, in my humble opinion, is to leave them all out but ultimately that is a decision for the local community to make. 

The difference with this situation though is that it is not about the use of school facilities for a club or after-school activity.  This is about setting aside time from class for prayer, specifically prayer for Muslims, and that is wrong.  I understand that Islam doctrine instructs followers to pray at specific times of the day; unfortunately that does not give them the right to completely disrupt class schedules in a public school.  Muslims are perfectly free to worship as they wish at home and students are well within their legal rights to pray to themselves while in school, but a school that sets aside specific times for prayer for one group of students is without a doubt breaking the law. 

If this precedent is allowed to stand, it will open a Pandora’s Box of demands from other religions that student’s of their faiths be afforded the same accommodations.  If a parent wants his/her child to attend a school that provides religious teachings and prayer, then by all means they are free to find a private school that will fit their needs.  It is not the job of the public education system to support religion—that is the religious community’s job.  Also, the argument that religious accommodations are basically the same as medical accommodations is laughable.  There is a world of difference between making sure that, for example, a student in a wheelchair is able to safely traverse the school campus and access facilities and giving someone time to pray. 

Public schools, like our government and nation, are, and should always, be secular in nature.  It is not the job of the government or a teacher to promote religion.  Period.    

Monday, February 25, 2013

Scripture, Faith, and Obedience


While going through the news feed on my Facebook page, I saw a status update from Free-Thinking Society that said –
 "If you are unliking this page because of the last post, that is a good idea." 

Needless to say I had to see what the hubbub was about and came found this –
People who believe in the Christian god also believe in complete obedience to him to do whatever is commanded. Thank goodness he is a fictional character and not actually going around giving out commands like the one below. Doing what god commands in the senario below is not unlike following an order from Hitler. Just doing what you're told makes you as evil as the one issuing the command for genocide.

"I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:1-3

While I am sure that these comments will cause some people to unlike that page, but it does bring up an interesting point.  The harshness of the tone is over the top and not really necessary but the questions are good ones. 

Based solely on the quoted passage, one could conclude that God was instructing his followers to take part in genocide.  Now the quote is taken out of context so I'm not sure what else was going on in this scripture.  This is an excellent example of a Bible passage that condones horrific violence on those who disagree with the followers of God.  A passage like this really isn't that different from the passages in the Koran that also condone violence. 

Reading a passage like this does beg a few questions about faith, obedience, and the context and environment from which the scripture was written.  Let's take these one at a time. 

Faith.  Does having faith in a certain religion mean that one must agree with and adhere to all teachings in said religion’s scriptures?  In my mind it does not.  Spiritual faith is not dependent upon religious scriptures.  Faith can be influenced by scriptures but one must remember the context around which the scriptures were written.  More on that in a bit. 

Obedience.  The quoted scripture above specifically instructs followers to partake in the mass destruction and murder of an entire community/country.  Is this kind of obedience required for someone to truly be a part of a religion?  Are passages about killing, lying, and slavery meant to be followed in modern society?  Would a loving God really condone and command these types of actions?  I tend to believe the answer to all three questions is no.  In fact I have serious issues with any religion that teaches blind faith and complete obedience because neither has anything to do with spirituality and everything to do with controlling and manipulating people. 

Environment.  Something that I think is often either forgotten or overlooked is the environment from which a religious text was written.  Understanding the circumstances around the development of religious scriptures is vital in understanding the scriptures themselves.  What does that mean exactly?  Let me use an example that will hopefully not ruffle too many feathers—Norse mythology.  The stories found in Norse mythology are violent and often take place in very cold and harsh parts of the world/universe.  This harshness and violence in these stories is a reflection of the way of life for the Northern Germanic people.  They lived in an exceptionally cold part of the world that required great strength and resilience to survive, thus those qualities were reflected in their mythology and religion.  The same can be said of modern religions.  Islam for example was born out of an incredibly violent time in history and was developed in another harsh environment (this time on the hot side).  The scriptures in the Koran were written for a specific time and environment, as was the Torah, the New Testament, the Vedas, etc.  All of these scriptures tell amazing stories and teach valuable lessons but should not be followed blindly or completely.  Meaning, you shouldn’t do everything that is in these books because some of it is cruel, harsh, illegal, and downright crazy. 

Religious scriptures, like mythology, folklore, and fair tales, teach important life lessons and can provide guidance through difficult times.  They are wonderful tales about the mystic, magical, and extraordinary things in this world and beyond and shine a bright light into the heart and soul of the human spirit, and should always be revered as such. 

Should they be taken word-for-word as literal historical facts?  No. 

Have they been used by those in power to manipulate the masses?  Yes. 

Do people do ridiculous things in their names?  Oh lord yes.

Do they deserve to be belittled and demonized?  No.  The problem isn’t the scriptures, but what people do with and in the name of the scriptures.  Following orders is one thing.  Blindly following them is another.  

Friday, February 22, 2013

Topics for the Feb. 23rd Radio Show


On this week’s edition of the Wobbles and Nubs My 2 Cents Radio Show we have each selected a few specific stories to discuss beyond the general news of the day and political philosophies.  Below are links to said stories and please check out the show!  By the way, our first two episodes are available to your listening (dis)pleasure here

Wobbles’ Selections –
Opening Paragraph:  President Obama played golf Sunday with Tiger Woods during the president’s long holiday weekend in Florida, amid concerns from the media about a lack of access before, during and after the newsworthy outing.

Opening Paragraph:  WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that Americans don't need semi-automatic weapons to protect their homes because a couple of blasts from a shotgun will scare off intruders.

Opening Paragraph:  While trying to explain why women in college don’t need firearms for self-defense on campus, Colorado state Rep. Joe Salazar said even if women feel like they might be raped, their suspected attacker might not actually have intent to rape. So please, put the guns away ladies.


Nubs’ Selections –
Opening Paragraph:  Many employees lost their jobs in recent years after posting negative comments about work on social media sites. A recent decision by the National Labor Relations Board may give workers more freedom to talk and complain about work on social media.

Opening Paragraph:  Oklahoma has made some of the deepest cuts to funding for local schools of any state in the country. Over the last five years, the state has cut per-pupil education aid for primary and secondary schools by 20 percent, or $706 per student, after adjusting for inflation. Only Arizona and Alabama have cut funding more deeply over that time frame. These funding cuts have serious consequences for educational quality and for economic growth.

Opening Paragraphs:  DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A southwest Ohio woman who says she was fired because she voted for President Barack Obama filed a lawsuit against her former employer. 

Patricia Kunkle's lawsuit accuses Dayton-based defense contractor Q-Mark Inc. and its president of telling employees that if Obama was re-elected, then his supporters would be the first to be fired, The Dayton Daily News (http://bit.ly/YxE10A) reported.  

Saturday, February 2, 2013

The Misuse of the Word "Patriot"


People, especially conservatives, love to throw the word patriot around.  It's almost like there is an implicit accusation (or sometimes not so implicit) that anyone who is not a conservative is somehow either not a patriot or is unAmerican.  This idea is utter and complete bullsh*t.  Just because someone has different opinions on policy or, God forbid, different religious beliefs does not make them unpatriotic.  The implications and inuendos that somehow those who think Obamacare was a good idea or those that think the rich should pay more in taxes or those who are Muslims are automatically unAmerican and unpatriotic is not only ignorant, but it is also laughable.  The arrogance behind these implications and beliefs is staggering.  Anyone who is foolish enough to think that only their political philosophy is the one with all of the good ideas and proper policies or that their religion is the only way to salvation is deluded and blind to reality.

I'm sorry for being so harsh, but I was scanning through the page's news feed and after being bombarded with ridiculously ignorant memes from one page, I saw a post from another one that used the word patriot next to conservative in its name and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.  I disagreed with George W. Bush on a lot of things but I never called into question his love for this country.  Why many conservatives can't do the same with Obama or couldn't do the same with Bill Clinton is beyond me.  Same thing with all of the liberals who hated and spewed vial things about Bush.  This kind of ignorance, arrogance, and immaturity has got to stop.  Sadly one look at Facebook shows that it probably never will.
-- Nubs